I'm Going To Divorce My Wife After She Lied About Her Fertility For 8 Years r/Relationships

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[00:00:35] I, Male 38, have been with my wife Natalie, female 37 for eight years.

[00:01:05] Married for four years. Natalie has a daughter from a previous relationship,

[00:01:10] Kaya, female 12. Kaya's dad left when she was a newborn. We have no idea where he is.

[00:01:17] I love her as if she were mine. She calls me dad and has a great relationship with me.

[00:01:22] I told Natalie from the very beginning that I would like to have biological children,

[00:01:26] and she said she is open to having more kids. After we got married,

[00:01:30] we bought a nice place and started trying for a baby. After a year, we did some testing and

[00:01:36] all came back normal. My wife said IVF would be too costly and hard on her body.

[00:01:42] I was secretly devastated, but I decided to come to terms with the fact that

[00:01:46] I'll never have any biological kids. This was until a few days ago when I found out from

[00:01:52] Natalie's sister that Natalie lied to me. She and her sister got into a fight in our

[00:01:57] house and her sister screamed, at least I don't take pills behind my husband's back

[00:02:01] and claim I'm infertile. Does he know you had an abortion?

[00:02:06] I was floored. My wife kicked her sister out and started crying,

[00:02:10] saying she really didn't want another kid and didn't want to lose me.

[00:02:14] I can't believe she lied to me instead of just talking to me.

[00:02:19] I just left. I've been staying at my parents' house since then.

[00:02:22] Natalie begs me to come back and she says we can try for a baby.

[00:02:27] Kaya even messaged me to come back. My parents think I should just move on and give her another

[00:02:32] chance. She made a mistake and she apologized. I'm IVF here for wanting a divorce for this lie.

[00:02:40] Opie adds I live in Canada, I'm pro-choice so I do believe women have the right to control

[00:02:45] their bodies. Don't lecture me about her rights, but this is a different case.

[00:02:50] She lied to me. I could now have a baby in my arms. I have no idea she is against having more

[00:02:56] babies until a few days ago. Abortion happened 1.5 years after our wedding. Yes, my baby.

[00:03:04] Yes, she saw me devastated and upset when she claimed we can't have a baby.

[00:03:08] I can't believe she lied to my face. Now this is just all about the actual lying for

[00:03:14] me. You can choose to want more kids, you can choose to not have any more children.

[00:03:19] That's totally up to you. These are your choices, but to lie about your fertility to your partner like

[00:03:24] that is devastating. I feel like I say it all the time now, but once the trust has gone in the

[00:03:30] relationship how do you rebuild from that? I'm sure there are some people that can,

[00:03:35] but I always struggle to move past that and especially something as huge as this.

[00:03:41] Not discussing it just straight out lying. But in the comments,

[00:03:45] impacts as not the arsehole, there is nothing wrong with not wanting to have kids.

[00:03:50] There is nothing wrong with not wanting to have more kids. There is nothing wrong with

[00:03:55] changing your mind about wanting or not wanting kids. This is not about any of that.

[00:04:00] This is about the fact that your partner chose over and over again to lie to you,

[00:04:04] to allow you to dream about a future she knew you won't have with her.

[00:04:08] She lied, betrayed and misled you for years. Even if she did at 180 and honestly wanted

[00:04:14] kids now, is this really someone you'd want to stay with, to co-parent with,

[00:04:18] to be the mother of your child? And that comment said it better than I could in that situation.

[00:04:24] It's like how do you move on from something like that? It's just a massive betrayal.

[00:04:29] Leon says that's not a mistake, that's an eight year lie. Every single day they're prevented

[00:04:34] you from having a child. The great news is that you can have one with someone else.

[00:04:39] Not sure Stranger says not the arsehole, that is not a small lie. I generally support women's

[00:04:45] rights to choose but lying is not a right. She aborted your wanted child without discussing it

[00:04:51] with you. That's a pretty high level of betrayal. She told her sister but not you. How many people

[00:04:57] knew? How many people kept the truth from you and for how long? I'm sorry OP.

[00:05:02] And a final comment from Chalence Houdini who says it's the fact that she now wants

[00:05:05] you to come home to have a baby with her that disgusts me. So not only is she lied and deceived

[00:05:10] to you for eight long years about being infertile, taking birth control pills and aborting your

[00:05:16] baby which you desperately wanted without ever letting you know. Now all of a sudden she is

[00:05:21] truthful and honest and wants to consider your feelings. She is deceitful as they come.

[00:05:26] She only wanted you to father her daughter from her ex. She never truly cared about you in

[00:05:31] the relationship. She's scared you won't be around to be a father to her daughter anymore

[00:05:35] hence why she's giving you a baby. I would never ever trust her again, not the arsehole.

[00:05:43] OP updates the post some time later and says thank you for all your kind comments and

[00:05:47] private messages. I did receive a few unkind ones accusing me of trying to control her body or

[00:05:53] making her feel unsafe which is why she secretly went through with it. Natalie came over to

[00:05:58] my parents house last night after dinner. She dropped off Kyra and her friends because

[00:06:02] she said she needed to talk to me. I'm glad I gave her the chance because now I have no doubt

[00:06:07] she is a pathological liar. She said after her first pregnancy he had to work so hard to be in

[00:06:13] shape and she swore she would never do that again. I said then you lied to me from day one.

[00:06:20] She said she thought she would change her mind but she didn't. Then she saw me come to terms

[00:06:25] with not having a baby so she decided not to tell me. I said so you lied more. You got rid of my baby

[00:06:32] because you wanted to stay fit. You didn't even discuss anything with me. How could you do that

[00:06:37] to me? I could be holding my baby right now and you stole that from me. She said she is sorry

[00:06:43] but the good news is she still can. I said you are still lying. You still don't want a baby

[00:06:49] and you're only saying it so I stay. I don't even know what to believe anymore. I can't

[00:06:54] trust you ever. She started crying saying Kaia is so sad you left us because I can't give you a baby.

[00:07:01] I lost it. You lied to her too. Is this why she thinks I left? It's over and to get out of my

[00:07:08] parents house. She cried and cried. I'll meet with my lawyer this week to start the separation

[00:07:14] process. I'll send a text to Kaia and explain that I didn't abandon her and will do anything

[00:07:19] to be in her life. I never legally adopted her sadly. I can't believe I blindly trusted her all

[00:07:25] these years as for Kaia's dad I have no idea who he is. She refuses to talk about it.

[00:07:32] We have another update on this in a second but the top comments on that one said the lack of

[00:07:36] an adoption might not matter but my stepfather and mother divorced he was able to get visitation

[00:07:41] rights but not custody or decision-making power as the court thought it was best for the

[00:07:46] child me this is a priority for you make sure your lawyer knows it op says I'll discuss this with my

[00:07:52] lawyers this week salt concept says in quotes she said after her first pregnancy she had to work so

[00:07:58] hard to be in shape and she swore she would never do that again and then says that was her excuse

[00:08:02] for lying to you for eight years and aborting your child behind your back yikes boring cycle

[00:08:08] says my eyes about popped out of my head when I read that or AP it isn't even about having a

[00:08:14] kid it's about the fact that she lied for eight years so he could be a daddy to Kaia or girl I

[00:08:20] wonder if you can get parenting time because he's been the only dad she's known for eight years

[00:08:25] the op comes in with our next update that says I'm sorry for multiple posts but you guys have been

[00:08:30] so helpful definitely more than my family and friends in real life I took your advice and

[00:08:35] met with my sister-in-law over lunch she was very reluctant to give me any info but here is

[00:08:40] what she said Natalie is in no contact with her parents since before Kaia was born she didn't lie

[00:08:46] about this part I asked if she knows who Kaia's dad is because Natalie gets upset every time I asked and

[00:08:53] refuses to talk about him she was surprised and said you're kidding right you can't be this

[00:08:58] naive it's obviously Ryan her boss the guy who owns the yoga place I asked about their relationship

[00:09:07] she kept saying Natalie really loves you I begged her to tell me everything she said she thinks not

[00:09:13] sure the reason Natalie had an abortion was because she wasn't sure if the baby was mine or Ryan's

[00:09:19] either way she didn't want another baby I was floored she was cheating on me the same time

[00:09:26] we were trying for a baby with the same guy who already abandoned her once what's going on here

[00:09:33] why I was stupid enough to start a college fund for a kid yet she cheated on me at least once with

[00:09:39] this guy I'm gonna lose my house and half of everything she said listen you're a good guy just

[00:09:45] move on no need to dig more you're making yourself crazy I asked if Kaia knows who her dad is

[00:09:52] she said absolutely not because Ryan has zero desire to be in her life I want to tell

[00:09:57] everything to Kaia before leaving but my parents think this is crossing the line because

[00:10:02] I'm not a dad or mom and it's none of my business my friends think I want to tell her to hurt Natalie

[00:10:08] but it's the opposite I know how awful it is to be lied to and Kaia deserves the truth

[00:10:14] my parents think I act like a crazy person I should just meet with a lawyer

[00:10:19] what an absolutely devastating situation and after that first update I was certainly

[00:10:26] questioning her why wouldn't she talk about Kaia's dad why wouldn't she even mention him or discuss it

[00:10:34] you know that was a red flag in itself for me but in this second update this is saying

[00:10:40] like there's no need to dig any further I mean how much worse can this get

[00:10:44] but Ryan she says crazy how many things people wrote ended up on point then quotes no need

[00:10:50] to dig more and then says this also sounds bad like there is more to dig out just meet the lawyer

[00:10:56] and get to the gym. Ariel Glimmer says leave the kid out of your fight with her mom if she wants

[00:11:01] to know about her dad she can ask and if she doesn't you do not have the right to violate

[00:11:05] her wishes here sorry you're hurt your ex is a b stop using the kid you're involving her

[00:11:12] too much as is stop texting her about her mom stop telling her what you and your ex talk

[00:11:17] about you can try to be there but opening her eyes to the person her mom was to you

[00:11:23] isn't fair and doesn't accomplish anything handle your business with the adult like an adult

[00:11:29] Kiki says so wait she still works with her baby daddy who refuses to be a dad and

[00:11:34] they're still hooking up what an absolute mess and you know what I can say from OP's

[00:11:41] point of view is best to be out of that situation in terms of Kaia ha that's incredibly

[00:11:46] difficult isn't it and I'm not sure what the legalities are behind that but what do you guys make

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[00:13:10] from the M.I.D.R. soul here subreddit that says I the R.S.O.L for leaving a dinner party

[00:13:15] after a girl sat on my husband's lap I'm still so shook with everything so sorry for my rambling

[00:13:23] my husband Jake and I have been married for three years and from the beginning he was very close

[00:13:28] with his best friend sister Cindy 18 female well my husband would often talk about her and

[00:13:35] and tell how it's seen her grown up throughout the years Cindy is always very bubbly and seems

[00:13:41] very fond of Jake as well I remember when we were dating she would ask to come along on our

[00:13:46] dates a lot I never really said anything as I like spending time with her as well she was like a little

[00:13:53] sister to me when we announced our engagement she asked my husband to better not forget her

[00:13:58] after being a married man and they still hang out with her well we got married I even made

[00:14:03] her my bridesmaid soon we moved to a different state and kind of lost contact now Jake's

[00:14:09] best friend came to stay with us for some time and Cindy came along as well now the moment she

[00:14:14] saw us the first thing she said was how hot my husband has gotten and she was glad he didn't

[00:14:19] look like those boring married men then throughout their stay Cindy would just ignore my presence

[00:14:25] and will be way too close with Jake I told Jake that it was looking a bit inappropriate and to

[00:14:30] ask Cindy to tone it down but he said that Cindy is just a bit childish and is that way

[00:14:36] with everybody well at the last day we decided to host a dinner party for everybody during the dinner

[00:14:43] I was with Jake when Cindy came and told me oh I need to steal your husband for a while and before

[00:14:48] I could say something she grabbed Jake's hand and took him for playing games I ignored it since

[00:14:54] it was their last day but then throughout the dinner she was getting way too close with Jake

[00:14:59] and would drag him away whenever I would be around while giggling at me when everybody sat

[00:15:04] for dinner I sat beside Jake and Cindy came last she then said oh there is no seat and then just went

[00:15:11] and sat on my husband's lap everybody was surprised and Jake said laughing Cindy stop acting like a

[00:15:18] kid you're not a kid anymore Cindy started laughing saying it was a joke and got up and

[00:15:23] sat on another seat while giggling at me yeah also angry with a disrespect and with the

[00:15:29] fact that Jake was so cool with it but I didn't want to say anything bad so I excused myself

[00:15:34] took my car and went out about one hour later Jake called me asking where I was I told him

[00:15:40] I'm going to my friend's house and I will come after Cindy is left I know what I did was

[00:15:45] terrible but I was so angry at the time that if I had stayed there any longer

[00:15:49] what I probably started fighting or crying I came the next day and Cindy and her family

[00:15:54] left Jake was very pissed and said I took things too far I started crying and told him how everything

[00:16:02] made me feel he said I was horrible to think such things about Cindy and that she was like his sister

[00:16:08] I told him that I was not doubting his intentions but I was hurt by how disrespectful

[00:16:13] Cindy's behavior was and he was enabling her by not saying anything he started saying that

[00:16:18] I sound ridiculous and couldn't even take a joke referring to the sitting on lap incident

[00:16:24] I said regardless I don't want her in my house again to top it off Cindy sent a message saying

[00:16:29] that she was sorry about making me so insecure in myself and that she would make sure to make

[00:16:34] me feel better but I should not have left as it was pretty childish and kind of spoiled the mood

[00:16:40] it felt so backhanded I didn't reply anything to her I just told my husband he needs to

[00:16:46] maintain a distance with Cindy he asked if I was giving him an ultimatum I said if he

[00:16:52] will go as far as disregard and disrespect my feelings for Cindy just really rubbed my husband

[00:16:58] the wrong way and he said I have such discussed in thoughts in my mind and is giving him an

[00:17:03] ultimatum anyways then he might as well leave because he cannot live with such an insecure person

[00:17:08] who has such discussed in thoughts about him he packed a bag and left to his mother's place

[00:17:14] I've tried apologizing numerous times telling how sorry I am for everything

[00:17:18] but he is ignoring my texts and calls later Cindy's brother texts me and called me a bunch of names

[00:17:24] to think like that about his sister saying Jake should just leave me and a disgusting person

[00:17:28] like me deserves to be alone I could not stop crying after that I didn't know how to fix this

[00:17:34] is there a way to even come back was I so wrong to deserve this I didn't know anymore edit

[00:17:41] people who are asking our ages we're 25 years old just months apart

[00:17:47] and there was an update shortly after this one that said thank you for all responding and people

[00:17:51] who gave me good advice and personal messages I couldn't read all the comments but now I know my

[00:17:56] feelings are valid and boundaries were crossed by Cindy now during the dinner there was Cindy her

[00:18:01] brother Sean and his girlfriend and their cousin Derek also a good friend of my husband with

[00:18:06] his boyfriend so I called Derek and asked about the situation and what happened after I left

[00:18:11] he was sympathetic and said that after I left at first they thought I would come back after some

[00:18:16] time although things were really awkward but when I didn't come Sean's girlfriend told Cindy

[00:18:21] that she was so disrespectful for doing that Derek and his boyfriend also said the same thing

[00:18:27] there's Cindy started crying saying didn't have to corner her and attack her over a silly joke

[00:18:32] that she didn't know it gets so out of hand she then left the room crying Jake didn't know

[00:18:38] what to say and everybody left early the next day Derek also told that Cindy has always had issues

[00:18:44] with boundaries and when he introduced his boyfriend to everybody Cindy would get too close

[00:18:48] and would joke that she was just checking if he was really gay they were really uncomfortable

[00:18:52] with it as well so Derek confronted her which Cindy rolled her eyes and said they can't take

[00:18:56] a joke and eventually stopped this all sounds so bizarre I don't know what's going on with

[00:19:03] Sean's girlfriend also texted me saying she was sorry for what happened

[00:19:07] I told him how Sean's message was inappropriate but she had no idea about the text so I sent her

[00:19:13] a screenshot and asked her to tell Sean not to harass me again she was very apologetic and said

[00:19:19] she would talk to him now my mother-in-law called and asked what's going on as Jake didn't

[00:19:24] tell her and only said we had an argument I was a bit hesitant to tell but eventually

[00:19:29] told everything she was furious at my husband she said they will be coming to have a talk but yeah

[00:19:35] I'm just waiting for them to arrive and really nervous I don't know if what I did was right

[00:19:40] or wrong but we will see as for people saying my husband is some pedo or they're having an affair

[00:19:45] I know this is the furthest from the truth I never questioned his intentions but

[00:19:50] what hurt me was the lack of respect from Cindy towards me and if I was in OP's position

[00:19:56] in this situation I would feel the same way

[00:20:00] husband clearly didn't tell his mum what was going on because he knew he fucked up here

[00:20:05] but still doubling down with it and then a couple of the comments before the updates

[00:20:10] topbit says not the arsehole your only mistake was apologizing to your husband as if his

[00:20:15] accusations were fair blue wolves at night says agree she had nothing to apologize for

[00:20:20] now her apologies justify their actions as making it seem like they did nothing wrong

[00:20:25] but she did since she is apologizing I would go as far as taking back the apology

[00:20:30] 777 says not the arsehole your husband should care about making you uncomfortable

[00:20:36] he pointed out it was inappropriate he blew it off up until the point that she sat on his lap

[00:20:41] and even he has to say something not because he was upset but because everyone was looking

[00:20:46] is disregarding his own encouragement of the behavior and gaslighting you

[00:20:50] try and make it a you problem he's a married man who is letting a young woman sit in his lap

[00:20:55] and intentionally disrespect his wife you don't have a problem with Cindy you have a problem with

[00:21:00] your husband this level of disrespect to one spouse is unacceptable today man says yeah

[00:21:06] as someone five years into marriage there are only two people I really give a shit about

[00:21:10] myself and my wife there is no situation anymore that I care about making some friends

[00:21:15] slash coworkers etc feel awkward or uncomfortable instead of my wife

[00:21:20] his posts always seem crazy when someone blows up at their spouse over you made my friend sibling

[00:21:25] feel weird like how could you possibly care about that over the feelings of the person you

[00:21:29] spend 99% of your life with then op comes in with their update and says for people who are

[00:21:36] still asking about the update in private messages so my mother-in-law came with my husband and

[00:21:41] well the talk happened there are a lot of things but I will try to summarize basically Jake apologized

[00:21:47] to me first and tried to explain his point of view he said that he was angry because a I left without

[00:21:53] saying anything for the whole night and he was literally trying to just defuse the situation

[00:21:58] and tried to laugh it off because it was so awkward he didn't know what else to do

[00:22:02] but instead of communicating I just left him in that weird situation

[00:22:06] he was meeting with his friends after such a long time and just wanted the dinner to be

[00:22:10] peaceful and Cindy was going back anyways and we would most likely never meet her again

[00:22:16] be acknowledged Cindy was indeed overstepping boundaries but he didn't know how to bring

[00:22:20] it up since he has literally seen her growing up and she's like a little sister to him

[00:22:25] also she acts like that with everyone he thought that it was just for a few days and he

[00:22:31] wanted no drama during their stay so he would just brush it off

[00:22:35] he did acknowledge he was wrong about not saying anything he was already really worried and sad

[00:22:40] because how I just felt with no explanations even after I came not once I asked how he felt

[00:22:46] he was also very overwhelmed with everything and felt I was accusing him for not doing

[00:22:50] anything when he literally pushed her off as politely as possible when she tried to sit

[00:22:55] he felt I was attacking his character and even gave the ultimatum which made him so sad as he

[00:23:00] found as if I thought less of him it wasn't about Cindy but about how easy it was for me to question

[00:23:05] his sincerity he said that after dinner he was going to go extremely low contact with her anyways

[00:23:12] he apologized for not speaking up about the disrespect Cindy was showing towards me

[00:23:16] and for also leaving like that and after Jake said everything mother-in-law explained Jake

[00:23:21] about the situation from her perspective she scolded him a lot as well in short she

[00:23:27] told him that as a husband it was his responsibility to make me feel like I am his priority and that

[00:23:32] he disappointed me the moment I had to come to him to ask for establishing boundaries as a husband

[00:23:38] it was his duty that I never would have to come to him about this in the first place she also

[00:23:43] asked him how he would have felt had it been a guy on my lap and he had no answer to it she

[00:23:48] told him how what I did was an eruption of suppressed feelings and as a husband it was

[00:23:53] his duty to go after me and never let me leave in the first place there are a lot of things said by

[00:23:59] her and Jake seemed to realize and sincerely apologize for his actions she told him if he

[00:24:04] ever pulls such a stunt ever again and not to expect her to take him in later she took me

[00:24:09] for a walk it was just the two of us and there she explained some things to me as well

[00:24:14] she said that she is sorry for everything but the told that even at her house Jake was

[00:24:18] distraught he didn't tell her because most likely he knew he was wrong too but was overwhelmed

[00:24:23] about everything as well she said in no way is she excusing her son's behavior but would hope

[00:24:28] that I would forgive him she also said that in no circumstances I need to leave my house as it was

[00:24:34] my house and my family she said I shouldn't be afraid in speaking my mind if anything makes

[00:24:39] me uncomfortable and to talk to her if Jake does something stupid again and she will set him

[00:24:44] straight she hoped we work it out since she has seen our love for each other and it would be sad to see

[00:24:50] a split up due to some disrespectful brat her words she said she cannot have a say in our issues but

[00:24:56] suggested that we get counseling to understand each other better she even bought ice cream for me

[00:25:01] I know it's a bit childish but she said sweet things work as a charm when people are upset

[00:25:05] and well she was right well it was awkward at night Jake came to our room and we didn't

[00:25:11] know what to say after a while we talked and both apologized to each other however I did tell

[00:25:17] that I was angry him to tell everything to Shawn was deeply hurt by the text he sent me he said he

[00:25:22] didn't know what I was talking about and I showed him the text he said he didn't tell Shawn about

[00:25:27] our fight and only told him that he was at mum's place he called Shawn well it turns out

[00:25:32] Shawn told Cindy how she went too far at the party then Cindy made a huge sob story about

[00:25:38] how I was passive aggressive with her the whole time I would always try to question her character

[00:25:42] and act insecure and jealous she even went on to say that I was always like that with her even

[00:25:48] when she was a kid and I never liked her and always tried to manipulate people into thinking

[00:25:52] I was an angel or she was a slur well that made him angry to think how I've been treating

[00:25:58] Cindy and he sent those texts Jake and I was baffled by such accusations and he tried to

[00:26:03] explain how it wasn't true then Jake just let it be and decided to go no contact with Cindy

[00:26:09] and extremely low contact with Shawn Jake apologized again and we just cuddled and slept

[00:26:16] well Cindy is out of our lives for good now and we've decided to go to counseling for

[00:26:19] better communication in future let's see how everything goes in the future but yeah we're

[00:26:24] not getting divorced I know a lot of people wanted me to show Jake this post but he was so sad

[00:26:30] and got scolded a lot already so I decided not to show him for now maybe in the future

[00:26:36] sorry for all this rambling have a good day people edits I read people saying we should

[00:26:40] be no contact with Shawn too and I felt that it would be best to let that friendship go as well

[00:26:45] so I talked to my husband about it and he agreed so he sent a text to Shawn stating

[00:26:49] that he could not be friends with him then blocked him as well to clarify I have somewhat

[00:26:54] forgiven Jake for his actions but I told him he needs to rebuild the trust I had

[00:26:58] so I know I can rely on him in situations like that he agreed and will get couples counseling as well

[00:27:04] thank you for all your advice it will make me feel less lonely in all of this

[00:27:09] now part of me wants to praise the mother-in-law in this situation because she sounds like someone

[00:27:14] to have in your corner right but mother-in-law shouldn't have to be involved in the first

[00:27:19] place it just sort of gave me an image and I know it's probably not the way it happened but

[00:27:24] mother-in-law grabbing him this 25 year old by his ear and dragging him around to his house and then

[00:27:29] sitting down and telling him to apologize like some naughty five year old I mean why did it take

[00:27:35] mother-in-law to come around with him to do this in the first place he should have done this

[00:27:40] or he should have at least been around there discussing the situation like an adult with

[00:27:44] OP so that kind of stuff rubbed me the wrong way and I'm not sure how what the future looks

[00:27:50] like for them but all I can do is wish them all the best for trying in their relationship I'm sure

[00:27:56] there was a lot of comments calling out you know you disrespect this too much etc etc but what do you

[00:28:01] guys make of this situation let us know your thoughts down in the comments below just a huge

[00:28:09] thank you from the bottom of my heart for getting involved in today's stories your love

[00:28:13] your support your time always means the absolute world to me so thank you so so much and

[00:28:17] hopefully I will see you you cheeky so-and-so in the next one take care and much love

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