My In-Laws Sold Their Home To Downsize IN SECRET But Plan To Live In Our Home r/Relationships

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[00:01:00] The story which comes from the MIA SOUL subreddit from mounting cash 5850 and says I the R so for refusing to share my vacation home with my in laws for six months after they sold their house without consulting me.

[00:01:15] Immediately you will say not the R so but let's check it out just in case. I the R so for refusing to share my vacation home with my in laws for six months after they sold their house without consulting me.

[00:01:27] Background My husband 35 male and I 33 female have been married for five years. We are in a beautiful vacation home on the beach that we built ourselves and used throughout the year.

[00:01:40] May in laws, 60s have always been welcome guests visiting for a few weeks here and there and contributing financially towards maintenance costs.

[00:01:49] Last month my in laws suddenly announced that they were selling their house to downsize and move into a tiny condo.

[00:01:56] Apparently they've been secretly harboring this idea for months never mentioning it to me or my husband.

[00:02:02] They plan to close on the sale in two weeks and then move into our vacation home for six months while they dig your things out.

[00:02:10] I was floored, this house is our sanctuary not a retirement home extension. We use it frequently have friends and family booked to visit throughout the year and rely on the income it generates during peak seasons.

[00:02:23] My in laws on the other hand haven't lifted a finger on the property themselves and contributed only minimally.

[00:02:30] My husband blesses sweetheart is more understanding if feels bad for his parents and believes we can make it work.

[00:02:38] Is in law sent in my resistance are now guilt tripping us claiming they have nowhere else to go and offering to pay significantly more than their usual contribution.

[00:02:48] I'm either our soul refusing to let them move in on one hand i feel obligated to help a family and need but on the other this feels like an outrageous imposition on our personal space and finances.

[00:03:01] Now part of me is thinking and maybe as usual it's i've read one too many reddit stories with entitled people etc etc but when i was reading about the whole six months i was thinking

[00:03:11] Is it really going to be six months the fact that they haven't brought this up with you at all and they're just planning to move in and they're saying oh it's only going to be six months

[00:03:19] It feels like it could extend a lot more.

[00:03:23] Potentially plans that this could be their retirement who wouldn't want to retire in a beautiful vacation home on the beach

[00:03:30] And a part of me is also like i wonder what other behaviors that they've shown in the past and you know

[00:03:35] You say you bless your husband sweetheart about being more understanding you know

[00:03:39] It's just enabling this kind of behavior and it needs to be stamped down pretty quickly before they do step foot into your place

[00:03:46] So in the comments opi does give some more information about their relationship with the in laws and says my relationship with their misstrain because

[00:03:54] This is not the first time they've grossly overstepped

[00:03:58] What a surprise right

[00:04:00] This has led to many a fight between my husband and me

[00:04:03] My husband sees no wrong in their behavior and thinks we should just help them every time they're at the vacation home

[00:04:09] They commented on how much they love it and would love to live in a place like this at retirement

[00:04:14] So i feel this was a very intentional move on their part not let them stay will create conflict in my marriage

[00:04:20] But i'm pretty positive that they will never leave if we let them move in one also says what else have they done

[00:04:27] Oopie says on our first marriage anniversary they gifted us a chicken

[00:04:33] We lived in an apartment at the time on valentine's day the second year

[00:04:37] They showed up at our house mid afternoon because they thought it would be special to spend the night with us

[00:04:43] On the birth of our daughter my mother-in-law refused to leave the delivery room until I had a nurse drag her out

[00:04:49] And then she sobbed obnoxiously loud in the hallway outside the room

[00:04:53] When covid happens jordas us cases and cases of beans and other can food to help us prep for the apocalypse and then send us the bill

[00:05:02] My mother-in-law demands all holidays with them and shows up unannounced my parents who are four hours away each

[00:05:08] holiday we spend with them and forces us out of my bedroom and we sleep on the pullout so for the whole visit

[00:05:14] My mother-in-law demanded my husband go to her house last year to fix something on our daughter's birthday

[00:05:20] And then kept in there after the birthday party was over then had a birthday party she planned for my daughter at her house the next day

[00:05:28] Our second daughter's birth was similar when she sobbed and instantly facetime my husband since I refused to let her into my delivery room

[00:05:36] She sent a mix nuts packaged to my parents at Christmas this last year knowing my dad is deathly allergic to tree nuts

[00:05:43] I could go on and on

[00:05:46] Holy shit balls

[00:05:50] And for me again this went from like putting your foot down tell him that they can't stay into your place to go in

[00:05:56] No contact with these kind of people holy shit

[00:05:59] I know it gets mentioned a lot on Reddit, but why would you want someone around you around your family like that? I know

[00:06:06] That sounds like an absolute nightmare to have around you

[00:06:11] obnoxious narcissistic

[00:06:14] Entitled it's the whole package and the husband needs to realize this behavior pretty quick holy crap

[00:06:21] Oh the first comment says no no no no no no

[00:06:25] Not the asshole do not do this

[00:06:28] Don't fall for the because family needs it BS

[00:06:31] This isn't family in need of your space. This is running a con to get into your space

[00:06:36] They can find plenty of spaces hell take a cruise for six months if they need help you can help them find a temporary space for six months

[00:06:44] In fact why not meet them with a list of a few places they can look at

[00:06:48] I know they won't look, but it sends the right message

[00:06:50] They just showed you who they are. They're sneaky, manipulative

[00:06:54] Only care about what they want and are willing to try and guilt trip you to give it to them

[00:06:59] Nothing in this says they are loving and want what is best for you

[00:07:02] What do they even mean? They get things out

[00:07:06] It sounds like they don't have a plan and we're just expecting to move in and stay forever

[00:07:11] Once they have established residency you can't just evict them you need to go through a process

[00:07:16] Since your husband can't say no now. Do you really expect you'll be able to say no later

[00:07:21] There is no upside for you in this there is only grief and pain

[00:07:25] I won't do this at all, but if forced to what have them on a lease

[00:07:29] That way you can evict them once it ends

[00:07:31] If they get in there without a set end date it will go much worse for you

[00:07:36] I'm sorry your husband doesn't understand that his parents are using you both

[00:07:39] Good luck

[00:07:41] One more comment from love jins who says not the asshole nope nope nope

[00:07:45] As a retired senior our planning was done years in advance

[00:07:50] I read every best place to retire article research possible spots

[00:07:54] We even traveled to a few close areas to scope them out

[00:07:57] We made a list of things that would be more important as aging people

[00:08:00] Health facilities activities meeting our declining abilities

[00:08:03] Transportation towards the time we wouldn't be able to drive

[00:08:07] Even assisted living facilities and veterinarians

[00:08:10] We spent the two years before the project to bug out date getting rid of stuff and storing what we knew wouldn't be needed

[00:08:16] immediately

[00:08:18] If you let your in laws to send on your home you have a hard time prying them out

[00:08:22] Know your husband know and don't back down

[00:08:25] This is shitty planning on their part

[00:08:28] Youth can do things on the spur of their moment and still have time to retrench your things go wrong

[00:08:33] Retirement is different. It will suffer more if they can't make up their minds or things go pear-shaped because they don't know what they are doing

[00:08:41] I think they know exactly what they're doing and it all involves fucking over OP here

[00:08:45] But OP updates the post and says

[00:08:49] I give a quick update while I wait to get the kids from school and answer a few questions

[00:08:53] I saw pop up

[00:08:54] We co-owned the beach house we bought it in 2020 when interest rates were super low before houses skyrocketed

[00:09:00] In laws of how this was projects and pay for a few things but so do my parents

[00:09:05] So we have never thought of their contribution as anything but help from parents

[00:09:10] They had their annual old fart Christmas party their words not mine

[00:09:14] There this past December and had to place for a week free of charge for them and all I guess

[00:09:20] Though they definitely have gotten plenty of use of it

[00:09:23] We had a come to Jesus moment yesterday and I was the asshole to my husband

[00:09:27] I told him I was done and I wasn't even entertaining them staying there as it's our business and this is bad business

[00:09:35] I basically told him I was over his mum and it was at the point

[00:09:38] I'm about to piece out because I can't handle a shit anymore

[00:09:42] Previous to this I was no contact with her and would entertain them when they'd come to visit

[00:09:47] You never stayed in our house and we live relatively close to them

[00:09:51] He still has no clue if they're truly selling their house

[00:09:54] If they're upside on bills or they're just assholes but I honestly don't care

[00:09:59] My parents are immigrants and own a restaurant and have worked their ruses off to create a fantastic life for me and my siblings

[00:10:05] They also taught us the value of money and working hard for things we have

[00:10:10] The vacation home was bought cheap but 90% of the renovations were done by me during my free time

[00:10:16] renovations are my true love

[00:10:18] Nursing pays the bills

[00:10:19] I love it too but it doesn't feel the creative cup

[00:10:22] I told him he'd lose the house to his parents over my dead body

[00:10:26] And if he feels the need to financially set them up he can do so with extra money he earns from picking up shifts

[00:10:32] Also a nurse

[00:10:34] Basically I told him their failure was not an emergency on my part

[00:10:38] They've always kept up the Jones and spent exorbitantly

[00:10:41] So they might be broken again

[00:10:43] I don't care

[00:10:45] I've barely tolerated his mum for the past few years

[00:10:48] I'd be cordial because I was raised well but I'm over tolerating their nonsense

[00:10:53] I will say he does see all this crap she pulls but he was raised at mum knows best

[00:10:58] He's pure to eagerness so this is partially cultural but I'm done

[00:11:03] I worked yesterday and busted my ass

[00:11:05] Then drove the kids to the beach house last night and picked up dinner

[00:11:08] And we are there and I just thought fuck no

[00:11:12] It's a time we'll tell but he called his parents on speakerphone and told him they couldn't stay

[00:11:17] But the offer to condo hunters still open but he needs to know the price range and all that jazz

[00:11:23] His mum cried and I flipped the phone off

[00:11:26] So as of this moment it's not happening

[00:11:28] I also told him if it's a problem he can quit

[00:11:31] I indeed the beach house and I cover the expenses and manage it myself

[00:11:35] Because mama don't play

[00:11:38] An absolutely op made the right decision and this one put enough foot down

[00:11:43] It kind of feels to me like it's not going to be the end of this one

[00:11:46] Because you know that mum the way that we've seen and the way that op explained

[00:11:51] How manipulative she can be and all the shit she's done in the past

[00:11:56] No it feels like she just won't let this one lie like that

[00:11:59] So keep an eye out for an update on that one

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[00:13:16] Now our next story does come from the am I the asshole here subreddit

[00:13:19] It does have an update as well titled

[00:13:21] Am I the asshole here for preemptively striking against splitting the bill at a group dinner

[00:13:27] From rebel Ellen you start off

[00:13:30] I host says it all but here's the story

[00:13:32] I was invited to a group dinner and decided to go

[00:13:36] I usually decline because two couples in this group are free leaders

[00:13:39] And the split the check type

[00:13:41] They order expensive items on the menu

[00:13:44] Appetizers and cocktails

[00:13:45] But I get a moderately priced dish and a coke

[00:13:48] I was told they wouldn't be there this time

[00:13:50] And that's why I decided to go

[00:13:52] Well, they were there

[00:13:54] I didn't bother asking what the story was

[00:13:56] Because it didn't matter

[00:13:58] I knew what was going to happen come check time

[00:14:00] Though excuse myself went to flag down my server

[00:14:03] And asked if you would please separate my bill from the others

[00:14:06] He agreed

[00:14:07] When the time came to pay the bill

[00:14:09] Handed the server my credit card

[00:14:11] And paid my bill

[00:14:12] I tipped 25%

[00:14:14] The free loaders went oh

[00:14:16] I thought we were splitting like we always do

[00:14:18] Which I said oh well, you're bad

[00:14:21] But this prompted two other people in the group to ask for separate checks too

[00:14:25] Which the server happily did

[00:14:27] After I paid I told everyone goodnight and went on my way

[00:14:31] The next day I got a text from another person in the group

[00:14:34] Not in total

[00:14:35] Two free loading couples and five solos

[00:14:38] But I was an asshole for doing that

[00:14:40] They do normally split the bill

[00:14:42] As it gives everyone a chance to have a nice meal

[00:14:44] They couldn't otherwise afford

[00:14:45] And it also makes splitting the 20% group

[00:14:48] Attuity easier

[00:14:49] I told her

[00:14:50] I would not be guilted to staying within my means

[00:14:52] And not paying for moochers

[00:14:54] Then I said the only reason why I came

[00:14:56] Was because I thought the mooch couples wouldn't be there

[00:14:59] Because they've been doing this for years

[00:15:02] I'm still being accused of disrupting the group vibe

[00:15:05] Did I?

[00:15:05] I think not because of the two

[00:15:07] And also asked for separate bills

[00:15:09] I had to do a double take on that line where it says

[00:15:11] They do normally split the bill

[00:15:13] As it gives everyone a chance to have a nice meal

[00:15:15] They couldn't otherwise afford

[00:15:17] I was like what?

[00:15:19] You know if this wasn't a greed upon thing

[00:15:22] And that's what everyone wanted to do

[00:15:23] Then fair enough

[00:15:24] But not to just expect that from everyone else

[00:15:27] That seems like a really weird thing

[00:15:29] And I'm the person that's questioned you on this

[00:15:31] I'm wondering about them as well now

[00:15:33] Someone also said that line is total bullshit

[00:15:36] And I hope you reply to it saying

[00:15:37] I was like what the fuck when I read that too

[00:15:40] And I realise she sometimes takes advantage too

[00:15:43] Though she's not as brazen as the mooch couples

[00:15:47] I think she was implying I could

[00:15:48] And should take advantage too from time to time

[00:15:51] That's not how I roll though

[00:15:53] I'm very pay your own way

[00:15:55] And to take advantage of the situation

[00:15:58] Just sounds wrong in itself doesn't it

[00:16:01] Route to me anyway

[00:16:02] I hope he says

[00:16:03] This isn't about treating poor out friends to dinner

[00:16:06] And says

[00:16:06] That's not what was going on here

[00:16:08] We all make good money

[00:16:10] These guys are just free-loaders

[00:16:11] Zero to core them

[00:16:13] Like I said

[00:16:14] I only went because I thought they wouldn't be there

[00:16:16] I stopped going because I noticed they were free-loaders

[00:16:18] And my feelings weren't a secret

[00:16:20] By the way

[00:16:21] When I invite someone out to dinner

[00:16:23] I pay the entire bill

[00:16:25] The type people I'd make that offer too

[00:16:27] As a type that would decline the invitation

[00:16:29] If it would wound their pride

[00:16:31] And one more piece of info of which

[00:16:33] Opie says

[00:16:34] We all make roughly the same amount of money

[00:16:36] One, if the suggested restaurant is out of your price range and budget

[00:16:40] You'd decline the invitation

[00:16:42] Two, we go to the same restaurant

[00:16:44] A Brazilian steakhouse

[00:16:45] Everyone in the group like steak

[00:16:47] So it's an easy choice

[00:16:49] And just coming back in

[00:16:50] Because yeah

[00:16:50] The absolute entitlement and audacity of it

[00:16:53] To say

[00:16:53] Oh, I thought we always split checks

[00:16:56] I just like come on man

[00:16:59] But Jeepers Creeper says

[00:17:00] Not the arsehole

[00:17:01] And then say

[00:17:02] I'm sorry

[00:17:03] I always assume we were together to socialize his friends

[00:17:06] Not subsidize meals for other people

[00:17:08] That cost more than what I have budgeted for myself

[00:17:10] If that is the group vibe

[00:17:12] Then I hear by opt out of the group

[00:17:14] And says

[00:17:15] The fact that others followed your lead

[00:17:17] In requesting separate check shows

[00:17:18] You're not the only person who feels this way

[00:17:20] He was just looking for someone else to be brave enough to do it first

[00:17:24] If I were you

[00:17:25] I would contact those two and start a new Dutch dinner group

[00:17:29] Cozy Field says not the arsehole

[00:17:31] Whenever my husband and I go out to eat

[00:17:33] He always tells the server prior to getting drinks

[00:17:35] Then him and I will be on one bill

[00:17:37] Just so that from the get-go

[00:17:39] It's clear that we're covering just for ourselves

[00:17:41] And also not covering for

[00:17:42] Unknown Mutra friend

[00:17:44] Law

[00:17:45] I wouldn't have it even told your server in private next time

[00:17:49] Say it off the bat so that you'll be on one bill

[00:17:51] And the server will automatically separate it from the rest

[00:17:54] Asher Wynne says not the arsehole

[00:17:56] I have a friend that our group always pays for

[00:17:58] Because she's a 26 year old widow with three children

[00:18:02] And we wanted to be able to join us

[00:18:04] It's however was something we all agreed on

[00:18:06] In the future ask for a separate check during the ordering process

[00:18:10] If you don't want to create a strife

[00:18:11] You can state that it makes things easier if you want to leave early

[00:18:14] Which is true

[00:18:16] It's one thing to treat friends who are temporarily struggling

[00:18:20] That is part of the give and take of genuine friendship

[00:18:23] What you were describing is a group of people

[00:18:25] Enabling users

[00:18:26] At the expense of your budget

[00:18:28] One more comment from Jeff Prop who says not the arsehole

[00:18:31] My friend split the bill off all the totals are close

[00:18:34] Otherwise we get separate checks

[00:18:36] It is easy to separate checks in the server off the narset front

[00:18:39] With the bill is separate altogether

[00:18:41] Who should group chat everyone and apologize for ruining the vibe

[00:18:45] by asking for a separate check

[00:18:47] Use exactly what the person who contacted you said

[00:18:49] Regarding it being an opportunity for those who could not afford such a meal

[00:18:53] And say you do not agree with it so you will decline future meals

[00:18:57] Where the check is split

[00:18:58] Then say you will gladly go out when the checks are separated

[00:19:02] Then grab some popcorn for the show

[00:19:05] Oh Jeff you cheeky so and so

[00:19:09] So the next day OP comes in with her update

[00:19:13] I forwarded the text to the two people who asked for separate bills

[00:19:17] They were both upset by the text and reassured me that I was not the arsehole

[00:19:22] They said too they were growing tired of the moochers

[00:19:25] And wish they stood up for themselves sooner

[00:19:27] Then one of them said that the group vibe was disrupted when I first stopped coming

[00:19:31] Everyone knew wise that made the mooching the elephant in the room

[00:19:35] And his bad for not addressing it out of his need to go along to get along

[00:19:40] The others agreed and they both said they missed having me there

[00:19:44] That made me feel good

[00:19:45] The three of us then reached out to the solo member who didn't ask for a separate check

[00:19:50] This person is also the organizer

[00:19:52] The first thing she did was apologise to me for poor communication

[00:19:56] She admitted they changed their mind about not coming in plenty of time to inform me

[00:20:00] But she really wanted me to come

[00:20:02] She realized she should have when she saw the look on my face

[00:20:06] She said she was tired of the mooching too but was too much of a coward to say something

[00:20:11] Which only fueled there we always do it this way ammo

[00:20:15] She then filled us in on what happened after we left

[00:20:18] Turns out the other two separate bills left shortly after I did

[00:20:22] Everyone ended up getting separate checks which made two mooch couples angry

[00:20:26] They justified their mooch in the same way the chicken the texted

[00:20:30] They have expenses we don't and would it kill us to help them have a little joy

[00:20:36] Yeah, not happening buddy

[00:20:40] The four of us are going to start having a new group dinner and a different restaurant

[00:20:44] Yeah absolutely of those people man

[00:20:48] I can't I try to think I always try to get in people's shoes

[00:20:52] And and come from their angle but I can't think of those words going through your head

[00:20:57] At the end after all that's happened everyone split the checks

[00:21:00] You still haven't read the room and you come out with would it kill us to help them have a little joy?

[00:21:06] How does that entitlement happen it just hurts my head? I'm literally rubbing my forehead at the moment thinking what the fuck

[00:21:14] But yeah, good shout open in this one

[00:21:16] The four of you go in start a new group dinner is absolutely the way forward fair played you

[00:21:24] Proceeding steakhouse sounds absolutely amazing though and I

[00:21:27] I went Google it after this. I just found one close to me. It looks absolutely amazing

[00:21:34] And they have it is it I'm gonna

[00:21:36] Renunciation here. I did looking up. I can't still pronounce it

[00:21:39] Radizio radizio

[00:21:41] Looks incredible. I'm excited already

[00:21:43] Anyway, I'm going off on one as usual

[00:21:46] Opie absolute did the right thing in this situation

[00:21:48] But how about you what do you do in this usually split the bill? Do you not have you ever had an awkward situation around that

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