I Was Set Up By My Own Charity Board So I EXPOSED Everything | r/BestOf

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[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_00] Now today's first stories OP is OBlond1 but it's been compiled by BoringHistoryFan and the post originally came from the entitled people subreddit. It's titled, OP delivers donated clothing to displaced fire victims. Woman demands coat OP is wearing instead, then claims OP through donated clothing in ditch. What the hell?

[00:00:47] [SPEAKER_00] I'm part of a local donation group so every now and then I get asked to help with clothes donations. Someone passes away or downsizes and I will help wash, fold, sort and deliver the clothes to various free stores. Sometimes if we're notified of someone in the community in need, we will deliver essentials like winter or kids clothing to their house. We're just a group within the community. There is no religious, political or ulterior motive. We just spread extra through the community as needed and we can help them out.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_00] As discreetly as possible to help out. This particular situation just hurts my head and I'm still trying to figure out how it escalated the way it did. So, a few days ago there was a fire in our community which left three families displaced. We collected what we could in the sizes they needed and off we went. We don't ask for anything in return other than knowing the families are a little better off.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_00] We always apologize and explain that while they may not be the styles they are accustomed to as donated clothing, but at least it's clean and warm. If they had specific needs to let a member of the group know, then we would do what we can. A lot of our collected items belong to other families whose children outgrew the items. It's anonymous and it's a way for our more comfortable community members to help out others within the community with this. It's one thing I love about my community. People don't hesitate to help where needed.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_00] I was given an address and head out as usual. Pull in, get the bags and coats to the door and knock. After that, I'm not sure what to think. It started off as it usually does. There was a mother and three children. So I explained that there are three bags of clothing in the sizes submitted and a box of age-appropriate toys just like with the other families. I thought I heard wrong when she said she preferred my coat and just said, what?

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_00] She called me rude and told me again, this stuff is okay, but I want the coat you're wearing. When I told her, no, I'm sorry, I just bought this coat, she got angry and accused me of picking through donation bags for the good stuff. I've never run into this issue before. None of the group members are well off. In fact, that's why we do what we do. Because life is hard here and we believe in sharing what we have as a community.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_00] We collect good quality items from those with extra and distribute it freely to those that need it or have specific needs. Sometimes we all take items from our own closets if they're needed more elsewhere. Last year, we raised funds to help purchase a wheelchair accessible vehicle for a family. The year before, it was a young family whose matriarch was diagnosed with terminal cancer. This year's cause is to build four tiny homes for the homeless in our community to use as needed.

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_00] Our goal is to provide stability so they can successfully reintegrate during and after addiction rehabilitation. We all do what we can to try and help basically. It's a hard world to feel alone in. Now, my coat is expensive, $250, but I've also saved gift cards for two years and anxiously watched for post-season sales before finally taking the plunge and got it for 75% off. Maybe I messed up by wearing it on this errand. I don't know.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00] After I said no, this is my coat a second time, she started yelling at me. I just left the bags on the doorstep and drove away. Today, I wake up to a slew of texts from the group asking me to explain why I refused to give the mother any winter coats and why I left everything at the end of the driveway. Allegedly, in a ditch. They aren't questioning. Most are downright accusatory. Some are just borderline mean. It's the kind of day where I feel like giving up on making the world a better place thing.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00] I've been where these families are, and people help me just like this. I know what it feels like to rely on others, so I do try to be compassionate and understanding without being condescending or pitying. I don't often talk about what I do because nobody needs to know what came from where or who is getting what. It's just paying it forward. I do this because it's been done for me, and it's the right thing to do. It's that simple. But after today, I don't even want to reply to anyone. It's not just that woman.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_00] It's the texts that are getting kind of nasty at this point. It's these people obviously talking about me behind my back. It's how quickly they were to assume I must have done this. I'm not sure if I want to do this anymore after all this. I've been a part of this for five years and have never had a complaint before. I feel betrayed by people I thought were my friends. It just all feels gross, dramatic, and depressing now. And that's not how this is supposed to feel.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00] Opie went straight in to adding additional information. They said I could understand if this was like a fancy coat or something. This is literally just a rather plain looking long coat that happens to be super warm. I don't get it. Opie also says it's only been an official group with the board for about four months, but we've been doing this for five years now as a project of mine and the current board president had gathered considerable traction and volunteers slash funding as time went on.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_00] They so need policies in place, if only to protect the clients that use the service, but as a new board, we are all just learning the official ropes and red tape as we go. The one person I thought I could count on is currently the one insisting this happened as the client describes. I'm just so confused. Opie also says, We did need a board in this case as we are partially federally funded. The community pantry is anyways. It's a requirement unfortunately.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_00] And I've had one out of five members of the charity group text asking if I'm okay and what happened. The rest seem to believe that I did this. I don't know how to move on from this because the truth will come out eventually in a community this small. It always does. The question now is do I want to be involved with people like this? I don't think I can trust them after this. And someone says to Opie, Maybe take a breather from the group. The way they treated you is horrible. Opie says,

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00] The issue is I can't avoid them either. I'm going to have to answer eventually, either via text or in person. The longer I wait, the worse it will be. I know that, but I just don't want to deal with this either. Small community. The truth will come out eventually. But it's now obvious that I can't trust these people. No matter what's said after this, the damage has been done. Opie then comes in with an update and says, As suggested, I did text them as a group in bullet form stating facts only.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00] Edit, sorry for formatting, copy and pasted from text.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00] I'm trying very hard to understand the context of some of the messages I've received about this. And I'm truly confused as to why anyone would think I would purposely degrade a client. You all know my history and reasons I participate. As I feel I no longer have a place of trust within our group, I'm formally resigning from my roles within the committee and the group. I will, with your blessing, remain on the helping tree as a contact. So far, the replies are very interesting.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_00] They range from apologetic to accusatory to narcissistic. The most interesting one so far, I think, was not intended for me and insinuated that this was for the best. I can't believe how naive I've been. There's an emergency meeting being scheduled for next week. As apparently, you're not just allowed to resign midterm from a board like this without a valid reason. Which I think I have. The benefit of this is my accuser also has to give an official statement in the meeting minutes because I've resigned.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_00] Which I'm allowed to attend and comment on. Which adds validity to my reasons for resigning. Would it be petty if I wore my coat again? Or should I just choose something older? Genuinely asking. I don't want to make things worse. I just want out to do my own thing. Rumors are already starting and seem to be in my favor. Small towns are terrific and terrible for that. And I've been texted asking me to withdraw my resignation. For fear this may cause an irreparable rift in our charity group.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_00] I have eight months left to my current term as secretary. A position that requires the trust of the board members to record accurate notes. Which I no longer feel I have. I don't want my character unfairly questioned again after I've worked so damn hard to build it up. My resignation was intended to prevent drama and divide. It is doing the opposite. What would you do? I feel like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Someone says, not allowed to resign? What are they going to do? Ground you?

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00] OP says, with a formal board, there are steps to take to remove a member of the core board. President, vice president, secretary, treasurer, committee heads. Also I'm being told, this may be a stall tactic. I'm going over the current bylaws and policies but it's a small font and a hard read. OP says, I'm surprised and touched by how many clients are defending me. But I think this is what's causing a lot of drama and distrust both within the organization and with those that use it. Which is exactly what I was trying to avoid by quietly resigning.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_00] It just sucks, for the lack of a better word. I feel like the religious have it wrong. It's not judged not lest ye be judged. It's just be judged these days. A commenter says to OP, going forward it needs to be mandatory that there be two delivery people on every delivery. No excuses. There will be people in the future that are in dire need of your group's services. Please do not let that woman's behavior stop you from helping those who appreciate your work. And bonus if the other helper has a phone's camera on.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_00] They have documentation and they grow manners if they didn't already have them. Has anyone gone by the house again to see if there was really a ditch? OP just replied, oh my, my dash cam. I'm gonna check it. Thank you. Thank you so much. OP says, no audio, no clear aha moment. But it does show enough. It shows me pulling in that there's nothing on the porch. It shows the car moving slightly as I take the bags out.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00] And it does show a bag being deposited on the porch as well as at least two coats and snowsuits. As I back out, you can almost see the whole porch. You do see her outside, but the definition isn't good enough to see her face or what she's doing. I'm also still not sure what proof, if any, has been submitted by my accusers. Who, I'm told, has been dropped from the Helping Tree Community Pantry Registry. I'm actually starting to get very angry.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_00] That woman messed up, but she has three kids under her care that deserve to eat and be clothed. This is going way too far. OP comes in with an update and says, Ungrateful client is board president's former sister-in-law. And yes, they're still friendly. And says, ah, small towns. I can't wait for next week. A commenter did say to OP on the back of this, I knew it, this whole fiasco smelled strongly of being completely orchestrated.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00] Typical small town intrigue and power struggle, when there's only one that's struggling for power. President wants you kicked out because you're a co-founder, and she wants to take all the accolades and applause from the community. Go get your reputation back, sweet lady. You are needed and necessary to the community. If you weren't, you wouldn't have been doing this charitable work for five years. Fight, fight, fight. OP says, I'm trying to figure out how to walk away, but still acknowledge what's going on without hurting the board.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_00] They do good work, that's needed. I can't torpedo that no matter how I feel. And that's the problem. I think I'm going to ask for an official board inquest, which is within my rights according to our bylaws, before I go. I can't see someone doing this over reputation or clout. I certainly hope not anyways. But if the inquest finds this was planned, who the fuck does this? I would have grounds to have the board president removed. It's not pettiness. I don't want to see this done to someone else. But you're right.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00] Something stinks here and it gets worse by the day. I'm going to look into... And then the comment ended there. OP also said, I'm going to submit a statement to the board, with footage from my dash cam that shows at least one bag clearly on the porch. Unfortunately, I forgot to itemize the coat slash three snowsuits and boots dropped off in my group text. So I do have to justify that one somehow. I also just heard they dropped off another three bags to the woman, including winter gear.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_00] I think it's an attempt at damage control, but I also think they're moving in the wrong direction, given what I'm hearing from many. If she tries to sell the excess like many seem to think she will, this will all come to a head so much faster. Either way, I'm ironically the least invested in this around here at this point. Small town drama. OP then says, I admit, looking back, it is odd that I was given this client when others were closer.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00] I thought it may be because of scheduling conflicts, but I'm finding that's not the case either. Interestingly, there are rumors going around that this was staged. I'm trying not to pay attention to rumors without proof, but I'm starting to wonder. I hate this with a passion. It all seems so damn stupid. I'm still so confused. The meeting has been scheduled for Wednesday night, two days time. I haven't decided if I'm going yet. I don't want this drama to derail what has been a good thing so far.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00] I may just submit my statement and resignation and leave it at that. Popular opinion is on my side, so why make it worse? A commenter replied to OP at this point and said, I agree with this so much. People have had to do that here in my town too. We have small groups that helps out the community that aren't in any organization or charitable groups, just themselves giving back. We had specific residents in town that were running their mouth and taking donations and selling them for money.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_00] Eventually, these residents were burning through different community groups and established organizations, and they would complain about each one saying they weren't helping and deliberately causing trouble. These groups did post on Facebook telling their side to the situation, just like you suggested. Well, those residents kept doing this and blaming people for not helping, blah, blah, blah. It didn't take long for the rest of the town to realize that these specific residents were pulling these scams, and they were booted out of all community groups in town.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_00] Sometimes you do have to stand up and tell your side to the community. Eventually, the truth will come out. OP then comes in and says, You are brilliant. After reading this, I started thinking about other groups that this woman may have been a part of at a previous location. Well, well. I now have four witnesses to past behavior willing to come with me Wednesday from three. Groups that have been similarly burned by this woman. The question is, do I want to take it that far? I do, and I don't.

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_00] I feel this has taken up far more valuable time, and it's taken away from the original purpose of the group. I'm also being asked to submit my name for board president by the majority of the board for the upcoming term, so I'm being supported now. I still don't trust any of them to have my back should anything happen, and if I replace the president, shit will happen. A commenter was basically saying to OP, wear your coat to the meeting and bring the receipt for it. OP replied saying, I don't think I need to bring the receipt.

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_00] They're all aware of when I got my coat and what I paid for it, and being told that there are two board members who seem to think I'm blowing this out of proportion, president and treasurer, and should just take the reprimand maturely. When, or if, I go in Wednesday, I'm just going to tell them simply that I feel I no longer have the trust required for my appointed position, and am respectfully resigning to prevent further drama. Pass in my official resignation and walk away. I've also discovered the emergency meeting is to consider three resignations,

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00] not just mine. Holy shit is kicking off. Someone says to OP, OP, defend yourself. There's something fishy about this. Also, call CPS anonymously, and reporter for being unstable. OP replied saying, No, I won't be petting CPS. Those kids don't deserve to be dragged into this too. Commenter says, Maybe you should start your own group with people you can trust. OP says,

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00] I've actually been thinking of a fringe group for more rural locations that don't fall within community boundaries. This may just be divine intervention in disguise. The OP comes in with an update, the meeting update, and says, Update, the meeting. My apologies, this will be long. As I parked, there were a couple that stopped to say hi, but the majority of the board did not acknowledge me. My accuser though, she had a great laugh at my expense, and literally taunted me in front of the others on the way in.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00] Oh, here for more are you? Guess you didn't get enough of me yet. And blows me a kiss. She showed up with a press, and I feel that's relevant, especially seeming as she ran home. The meeting started at 6pm. I was not allowed to sit at the table until the issue was brought up. I sat alone for over 45 minutes. Finally, someone peeked outside at 6.53, to see if I was still there, and called me in. My accuser wasn't there. I sat down,

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_00] and the first thing said to me was, well, we may have made a mistake, followed by this big, flurry apology that stank of bullshit, and was gaslit better than a propane stove. You know that when a complaint comes in, we have to investigate it. At that point, I just exploded like, I didn't even talk to my kids like that when they were babies. It was the kind of tone you have when talking to the very simplest of minds. I told him there's a massive difference between investigating and outright accusing, and that I didn't appreciate how their ineptitude at leading a board

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00] nearly derailed the whole organization, and just put a really bad light on what we were doing. She says, by unanimous decision, we've decided not to accept your resignation. Welcome back. I've likely been this confused before, but I don't remember when. I was expecting this to be much harder. Had a factual speech ready and everything. Walked in, and it was just, we oopsied, oh well, teehee. Well, that's unfortunate that you refused to accept it, because it's given, and I'm not rescinding it. I'm out.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_00] And it seems you all know exactly why. For those who have reached out to me, I consider your offer of leading this board, but at this time, I'm not comfortable with the lack of trust and transparency I'm seeing, and left. My phone has been blowing up all night. I meant to update immediately, but it just kept ringing, tinging. I've never heard a tinging before. I don't even know how so many found out. Good old gossip is my guess. But I had over 30 calls,

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_00] and just as many texts and social media messages. So, what happened while I was waiting outside? My accuser decided to get on something pre-meeting. Literally acted like a wild animal at one point. I'm told it was bad, that the police and child protection services were called by four of five ladies present, and when told they were called, my accuser took off running home. That's a whole nother story. The kids are now safe, I'm told. There's that. The versions I'm hearing are surprisingly similar for once.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_00] So, I'm going to tell you the events as I was told. Prezza's husband is apparently an addict, who gets a stash from the sister-in-law, slash, accuser. I'm not clear on the details, but I'm told blackmail was involved. Common word says she threatened to spill the beans on hubby. You know how it goes. Get hurt, get prescription, get hooked, get cheaper street drugs because they're cheaper, and no doctor regulates them or questions your dose. There's a rumor he is also sleeping with a sustained-in-law, but this is not confirmed.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_00] But it's been going around for the better part of a year now. Maybe I should start listening to more rumors because I had no idea. Accuser started off normal if twitchy. She went to the washroom and shit allegedly went sideways not long after she came out. At one point she was laying on the floor, slithering and grunting like an animal. I wish I could have seen it, but kind of glad I didn't. When accuser left, it swayed the remaining two votes my way. There was a discussion on how to handle me,

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00] where the press just said she had followed the board on the vote, after they shot down a suggestion that the complaint still be addressed. The way she glared at me when I came in, yes, wearing my coat, tells me she was not happy about it either. The vote was unanimous to keep me. I did not wish to stay after all that. Tomorrow, they have an open board meeting to tell people what happened, as transparency is ironically a promise we made to the community so they know exactly who and what they are supporting. I won't be there,

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00] but a lot of angry and confused people will be. I'm glad I'll be missing it, but I have a feeling I'll hear all about it. I'm told there will be some calling for presser's resignation. We shall see, I guess. I started this feeling lower than low. Tonight, I'm surrounded by positivity, and I feel good about this decision. Is this karma? It feels like karma. Steps already being taken to form what we will call the fringe farm. We will collect fresh farm goods donated by local farmers and deliver to homes that need a little extra,

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_00] focusing on those that live between communities and people new to rural life. Eventually, I hope to offer clothing and household goods, but I need to find a source outside the community so I'm not taking from the original group. I also have a preliminary board, compromised of three of five members of the original board. I told them they have to finish their term at the group because they do damn good work, and it's not fair to those that need them just to walk away. Hypocritical? Maybe, but I refuse to torpedo the group. Two still submitted resignations

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00] because they're just floored by the last meeting. Theirs was depending upon mine, so their exit meetings are being scheduled for next week because they no longer have a secrecy to record minutes I'm being asked to. I'm also being asked to submit my name for president should the current one agree to resign. I haven't decided if I will. I feel that will come across as petty, and to be honest, it's no longer my business. Thank you for the encouragement. I'm not sure if I would have the courage to attend if not for the overwhelming kindness and support shown here. By strangers, shakes head.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00] You have no idea how much this meant to me when I needed it. Thank you. Opie says update two. The open meeting was a shit show, I'm told. The president was called to resign. Refused. So the board resigned. The group is now being led by the president, and that's it. So it's essentially dead. You need minimum three board members to continue as a registered charity or non-profit. Nobody out of approximately 50 people raised a hand when they asked if they wanted to join. The fringe farm, by comparison,

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00] has more volunteers than we can organize. This is the group started after you lovely folks helped me decide staying wasn't worth the trouble. I have mixed feelings over this. One, it's nice to feel validated. The other, I really don't like how this went down for too many reasons to count. Our first task as a new org? Writing an ironclad policy everyone agrees with, including specific steps to collect, file, and address complaints or concerns. Opie comes in with another update and says the aftermath.

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_00] It's been interesting. The old group has dissolved. Nobody wanted to work with the president anymore after all that. They held an emergency meeting to try and figure out why most of the board submitted their resignations, and it was a shit show of president accusing the remaining board members of conspiring against her, which caused the last remaining board members to also resign over time. My new board, Fringe Farm, is thriving. We've taken over collection and distribution in our area and two others as we've merged with two other small groups

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_00] to tap more resources. Imagine my shock and surprise when the original offender called my treasurer and asked to be put on the list. Of course, we did help her, but we took the secretary's minivan and all seven of us went as a group. When we got there, it was the former president's husband that answered the door. Our first task was to have an ironclad board policy that states anyone accused of wrongdoing will be spoken to privately by the president and vice president. Neither are me. I prefer to work behind the scenes prior to anything else.

[00:24:59] [SPEAKER_00] I'm hearing rumors that former board president, he isn't doing well. When the shit hit the fan, her husband left her for sis-in-law and they've been methed up ever since. I honestly feel bad for her. They have no kids and it's now just her. We're having a meeting next week and I believe we're going to invite P onto our board in a non-authority role. After hearing everything that went down afterwards, she's had to get a job and they're currently trying to sell their house and divorce proceedings, so I guess the rumor

[00:25:28] [SPEAKER_00] he was getting a little more than drugs from sis-in-law was accurate after all. Rumors say P is in a massive debt thanks to her husband's addiction. I don't think she should have to go through it all alone. I also think her situation was causing her an immense amount of stress and that's why everything happened as it did. She knows she messed up. There's no need to rubbing salt in her wounds. Reflection? This has been a very eye-opening experience into how our personal lives can seriously affect our moods and actions, I think.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_00] We never really know what someone else is going through and why they behave the way they do. Part of me wishes I knew so I could have handled it better on my end. Part of me is still raging and hurt at how it all went down. Hurt people? Hurt people. It's sad but so very true. The commenter says, to open the back of all this, you are very kind to want to help someone who tried to ruin your reputation. If you asked her to join your new organization, this should be contingent on a very serious conversation about a lot of subjects.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_00] Her husband left her for a family member and drugs and that's pretty fucked up and awful. However, that doesn't give her an excuse to take it out on someone who wasn't even remotely involved. If this kind of behavior is out of character for her, then sure, have the discussion. If this is how she always is, save yourself a major headache and just let her go. As for the sister-in-law, she should be put on some kind of list. Stop helping her. Opie replied saying, sister-in-law is not being helped by our group but I did refer her to another

[00:26:55] [SPEAKER_00] that has not had dealings with her yet and gave them the heads up that this person needs help but is unstable due to her current life choices. She has kids who are blameless in all this that don't deserve to be left out should she get them back. I think I forgot to mention that she temporarily lost her kids over her animalistic outburst at the meeting. Too many witnesses and too many complaints, I guess. And as her and P's husbands are blowing through cash like there's no tomorrow on drugs, it's unlikely to resolve itself anytime soon. And yes, it's been confirmed

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00] that at least one of the three children are P's husbands, possibly two. As for P, I feel for her. I really do think all of this was a desperate control tactic because she had none in her personal life. I get it, I think. My life from the outside looks perfect. Good kids, great partner, great and satisfying job, decent home and car and people seem to like me. I don't want her left alone. Depression is a terrible thing and it makes no sense to help a community

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_00] while ignoring someone within it is obviously not okay. I will definitely proceed with caution in case P has not learned her lesson but leaving her out feels wrong. A commenter says to OP, please forgive me for being incredibly late to these posts. I've just read the whole saga through twice as it takes me back to a former life where my role included managing volunteers and ah, the memories this brings back. These kinds of voluntary groups do amazing work and you sound like a truly fantastic individual OP

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00] but it can get so messy and so cliquey and people can become very protective of their little fiefdoms. These groups are fantastic when all is going well but once things start going wrong it can fall apart incredibly quickly. The only way around it, as you're doing, is to have robust and even-handed policies in place and stick to them. I know you're not doing this for praise or thanks but I do think you should recognize your own value and allow yourself at the very least a tiny pat on the back. Not because of the situation per se

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_00] but because the speed with which you have established your new group, how quickly your old group fell apart without you indicates what an effective and impactful leader you are. Even if you don't see yourself that way. It's clearly how your community does. OP says, we offered one-time temporary help. Our unofficial mission is we don't refuse anyone because we don't know their story. I also think many of our volunteers were curious and nosy and that's why we've been able to have such a large group so quickly. Sadly, I'm well aware

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00] that some help just for gossip and we haven't been operational long enough to root those out yet to divert positions where they can't collect potentially harmful gossip. The second request she made the very next week making a total three times request for clothing and food over three weeks and just over our two groups was passed on to another group as nobody wanted to get involved and I'm not allowed to get involved on my own. Our bylaw to prevent drama once a conflict has been reported the accused is not to have any involvement with the donation or distribution of goods

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_00] to the accuser. This also serves to protect our volunteers from frivolous accusations or personal vendettas. I'm not gonna lie by the end of this story OP's empathy had me in absolute bits. I was crying towards the end of that because of the way that OP talks. OP went through a whole load of shit through this story. the false accusations the group turning on her the stage meeting the whole thing being orchestrated by someone

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00] whose life was quietly falling apart. And what does she say? Hurt people hurt people and OP means it. She's not performing to an audience she just genuinely doesn't want the woman who tried to destroy her reputation sitting alone in a collapsing life. And I think most people and me included would walk away feeling completely justified and doing absolutely nothing to help that person and I think they'd be right to. But OP built five years of community work on a simple idea

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00] that she had been helped when she needed it so she needs help now. And oh don't that's getting to me again bloody onion ninjas that kind of empathy is so so rare these days. She just sees people even the ones who don't deserve it. That's super good on OP for turning that around rising above it all and it seems like she's in a better place than anything. It exposed a lot of shit that was going on and very likely made the community as a whole just as a whole

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_00] a much better place and the people that's being supported by these groups are gonna do much better because of it. Wow. But what do you guys make of this situation? Let us know your thoughts down in the comments below. Now just a huge thank you for being here today getting involved in the stories your love your support your time it always means the absolute world to me so thank you so so much for being here truly is absolutely amazing and hopefully I'm gonna see you in the next one. Take care and much love.