I Put A Lien On My Parents House And SUED Them For My College Tuition r/Relationships

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[00:00:32] I 17 female am graduating high school next month and I'm set to attend my first choice college with a partial scholarship in the fall It's an in-state school about an hour away and because of my dual enrollment credits

[00:00:44] I should only be five semesters from finishing my bachelor's degree and then going for the master's degree I need for the career I want five years ago my now I've looked up this word and there seems to be several Translations about it. I'm gonna go for more more

[00:00:59] Mums mum died leaving behind a college fund for me and my siblings Kyle male 25 and Kelsey female 22 Mums aunt Teresa was supposed to oversee it, but she died in 2020 and somehow my parents wound up in charge

[00:01:15] I don't know all the details because I was 12 when more more died and 14 when Aunt Teresa died I'm not even sure exactly how it was structured or how much there was Except that it was supposed to be enough to cover a significant amount of our expenses

[00:01:29] If not everything Kelsey is a fine arts major and her first year of college was derailed by lockdown And she wound up losing an entire year She was supposed to go back for a final year next fall just as I am starting college

[00:01:43] But last night at our grandpa's birthday dinner Dad's dad she announced that she'd been invited to participate in a junior artist in residence study program I was deferring her last year of college Everyone congratulated her and my grandparents asked about what sort of stipend she was getting

[00:02:00] She said there wasn't one but more and more money would cover her living expenses My uncle said that between me starting college and them covering that the fund would be empty soon And would her share be enough to pay for a final year after

[00:02:14] That's when my dad said that since I had scholarships my sister needed it more I wouldn't be getting any of the money more and more left for us Everyone was shocked and started asking questions

[00:02:25] But my parents insisted that it was important to support my sister's artistic goals the way we never were and that I'd be fine But my grandparents argued with them. Mum said I could take out loans for what my scholarship didn't cover and live at home to save money

[00:02:42] I was in tears and my sister was upset that people weren't happier for her When my uncle asked if there was even going to be money left for my sister to go back and graduate

[00:02:51] My parents said they would take out a loan against the house to cover it Everyone got into a huge argument of my parents and sister left My grandparents and uncle and aunt got to talking and my uncle who is a lawyer

[00:03:03] Says he's going to look into it and that we may have to sue them for my share of the college money Because he believes they mismanaged it my grandparents are worried about them mortgaging the house and losing it

[00:03:14] I suggest him we take out a lien against the house my tuition money So they can't use it to get a loan to pay for my sister's expenses

[00:03:21] Would I be the asshole if I sued my parents for my college tuition and put a lien against their house like my grandparents suggested?

[00:03:30] So the top commenter on the back of this one says this sounds like they horribly mismanaged the money a fund that was supposed to cover Even 50% of three college tuition should have had a healthy six-figure amount

[00:03:42] Not to mention to find was supposed to be used for tuition not other programs During the discovery your uncle may find out some disturbing truths But secrets especially money secrets always are the worst whether you do or don't your relationship with your parents and sister is

[00:03:59] Likely irreparably damaged Hope he says yeah, my parents are bad with money The only reason that we have a house is that more more left it to my parents same thing for having a decent car My grandparents were always paying for groceries or other bills

[00:04:13] Which is why grandma and grandpa are so worried about them taking out a loan against the house My mom is a wedding photographer for pay but also considers herself a potter and my dad is a musician who also does carpentry on the side

[00:04:26] Like set design for the community theater They are both artsy types. So it's not surprising. They chose Kelsey the artsy kid over me I didn't add that I was definitely an accident and I'm not artsy and it's just like why did I expect anything different?

[00:04:42] So there was lots of commenters talking to a beyond this one saying, you know You can't just put a lien against the house and that's it sort of thing Hope you came in with an update and said thank you all for the advice

[00:04:52] So no you can't just put a lien against the house But my uncle and grandparents are talking about suing for the money and since my parents wouldn't have it putting a lien against the house

[00:05:03] They want to move quick before my parents can do any other stupid crap as my grandpa put it We all know if my parents spent the money There is no way we'll be able to pay it back neither will my sister and grandma basically told me

[00:05:16] But at least they won't be able to lose the house My parents inheriting the house from my mom was the only way they could afford a home They have never been good with money so growing up my grandparents covered a lot of their bills

[00:05:27] So we could have groceries and that's probably why more more left aunt Teresa in charge of it They're worried what will happen to my parents if they do take out a loan on the house because none of us believes They'll be able to pay it back

[00:05:40] My uncle is going to talk to his law partner about taking the case But most importantly was able to call Kyle and since he was an adult when more or died He actually has a copy of the will somewhere that he says he'll find and send to us

[00:05:54] But he knew how much was in the account and where it came from According to Carl there was a 300,000 life insurance policy from when pop-hop my maternal grandfather died and more more saved it for us to use for college He's not sure how it was structured exactly

[00:06:10] Except his pissed because his college didn't cost very much and what wasn't used was supposed to be distributed when we all Graduated or turn 25 whichever happened first, so they stole not only from me, but from him too And you my sister's school was expensive. It's a private college

[00:06:27] But I guess I assumed she was using loans or a scholarship or something I never really thought about how they were affording her college I just focused on doing well and getting as many dual enrollment credits as my school would allow

[00:06:39] So I wouldn't have to spend as much time or money when I graduated and went to college When he told me I was in tears because a hundred K would more than cover my bachelor's degree and probably my master's degree too

[00:06:51] What I want to do meteorology requires a Masters or even a doctorate if you want to do any of the really interesting stuff My parents were mad at me when I went home last night like I had caused the fight

[00:07:02] So I just went to bed then went to work this morning And now just sort of drained like I got hit by a truck My best friend says I didn't do anything wrong and just sort of got sucked into everyone else's drama and scheming

[00:07:14] Which seems pretty accurate even more stupid is that my grandparents told me that because a New I had a decent amount from more more. It only saved my aunt's kids college funds So they feel bad too and grandpa's birthday dinner got ruined

[00:07:28] I got in some cheesecake from my work And I'm going to take it over to him when they get back from church tonight either way Got into my first choice college and I'm going to go even if I have to sell blood or take out loans

[00:07:41] So I've got that going for me, which is nice I'm trying really hard not to let this affect me too much because I still have final exams coming up And even though my grades are good

[00:07:50] I don't want to let this script anything else since some of my scholarships are dependent on my grades My brother suggested in the meanwhile that I can file paperwork my FAFSA Google says free application for federal student aid

[00:08:04] To not have my parents income counted just my own so I might be able to qualify for more aid So I'm going to talk to my guidance counselor tomorrow about that

[00:08:14] So there was a few comments that Opie responded to and you know some of the comments were downvoted But there's a comment that said you're the arsehole to Opie And Opie replied to it basically saying you're right

[00:08:27] I had a good life, but it wasn't because of my parents I've always been clear that I was an accident a whoopsy and when I wasn't musical like my dad and brother or artistic like my mom and sister

[00:08:38] It basically had no use for me in more more pop-pop Grandma and grandpa took care of me most of the time my grandparents are also the reason that we had food and electricity

[00:08:48] And the rent was paid because my parents are an artist and musician didn't make enough money I wouldn't listen to their parents and get real jobs to take care of us I'm a math and science nerd

[00:08:59] Telling all of my grandparents always encouraged if I was spoiled it was only by their attention They didn't believe in a lot of presence if they weren't giving them to all of us

[00:09:09] We didn't get them and we always got practical stuff like clothes and shoes for Christmas and birthdays Since I didn't want musical art lessons. My parents never paid for anything

[00:09:18] So my grandparents paid for my science team trips and let me buy my grandma's old car so I could get a job and pay her back

[00:09:25] If I'm spoiled it's only because my grandma and grandpa tell me how proud of me they are and that they are the only ones who do it I'm probably a brat because I'm resentful that so many adults

[00:09:36] I know my grandparents friends and my friend's parents refer to me as every parent's dream child and my own parents don't care There isn't a relationship there to worry about I am too different from them and even when I try to appreciate the things that matter to them

[00:09:51] They didn't value any of the things I'm interested in and this feels like the last nail in the coffin My grandparents and uncle were honest last night when they told me that suing and putting a lien against the house

[00:10:02] Wasn't about getting the money for college but preventing my parents from losing the house that more and more left them So they wouldn't wind up homeless or with my grandparents having to help them anymore So who knows maybe once I'm out my grandparents will stop

[00:10:16] But my dad has always held the fact that they helped my uncle with law school but wouldn't finance his music dreams against them So maybe that's part of You Guild

[00:10:50] It sounds like you have good kids. I hope they're a lot kinder and more compassionate than you are or then you seem to be from your comment I thought I was done crying today, but guess what you proved me wrong. Have you feel good about that?

[00:11:03] So another nasty comment comes into op and op response saying I took every dual enrollment course I possibly could through my high school I'm graduating with the equivalent of an associate's degree worth of credits But only the cost of the textbooks I had to buy

[00:11:17] The state and the school district covered the rest And that's why my degree is only going to take five semesters instead of eight And only that because some courses have to be taken consecutively not concurrently

[00:11:29] Why is everyone okay with my sister getting an art degree? No hate to art, but seriously and I get told to downgrade my dream I've also had a job since the day I turned 16. I've never missed a shift and have saved every penny I could

[00:11:44] I'm in a serious case of I did everything right and still got screwed I know I can manage college It'd be a lot easier with any sort of familial support Or especially the money from more and more, but I'll be able to swing it regardless

[00:11:56] But they dodged the issue when I asked them the last few months to then drop this bombshell lesson a month before graduation It's really crappy. Someone suggests to op that suing proves you're no better and that you value money over family

[00:12:09] op says my parents used to literally call me their favorite accident But not in a friendly way He also left me with my grandparents 70 percent of the time My grandparents and uncle are suggesting suing and the leon but not expecting money from it

[00:12:24] But if they have the leon then my parents probably won't be able to get a loan against the house And if they don't have a loan, they can't wind up homeless I love my parents, but I don't like them right now. I don't really know them

[00:12:35] They were rarely around and never interested when they were A couple of people have suggested my sister is the golden child and I'd say that's accurate What I want doesn't matter now Some of that money was supposed to be for my brother and now he's angry

[00:12:49] I feel like all I really did was sit there got told things by my parents that made everyone mad and made me feel unloved and uncared for Ask a question here call my brother and now it's like it's out of my hands

[00:13:01] Now i'm just planning not to have any money even if we sued and won they have nothing Unless there is something left in the account then whatever settles I'm waiting on more info and will update as things happen

[00:13:13] I put my graduation reminder on the fridge, but i'm not going to actively remind my parents But see if they bother to show up My grandparents uncle and aunt his wife already planned to take me out for dinner after so at least somebody cares

[00:13:27] Everyone on here has been great though. I'm very validating on my feelings, which is nice Even if they don't agree with suing they're mostly like yeah, this sucks and was unfair

[00:13:37] There's a right to be hurt and upset so someone who is more on op side replied and op said to them Thank you for being kind about this. It's my dad's family helping not mom's Though my grandparents are really close friends

[00:13:49] They used to say they had to be friends. No one else would understand dealing with my parents So I trust them to know what more more would have wanted

[00:13:58] Grandma says that she believes more more left aunt tereza in charge because she didn't want to put any milk stress on the Relationship between my parents and dad's family and it might have been better if they had just taken that risk

[00:14:08] My parents dad especially would have lost their minds if grandma and grandpa had been in charge because dad is still angry That they paid for law school for my uncle, but wouldn't pay for him to study music

[00:14:19] Which is funny because now they're paying for my sister to go to art school instead of me going to college to study science And don't seem to see the problem. You're right about having to be the squeaky wheel

[00:14:30] Except my parents have always been sort of deaf about me. So my grandparents had to step in I was in accident Ed my oldest siblings and planned to be done and then got pregnant with me

[00:14:41] When it turned out, I wasn't like any of them. They sort of left me with my grandparents a lot My brother was raised to be a junior version of our dad and they always call kelsey mum's mini me

[00:14:52] We were really proud when kyle had any sort of band performance or school play or kelsey was in an art show But my science and math stuff they didn't care about Kyle is sort of laid back and he left for college when I was 11

[00:15:04] I don't remember living with him and kelsey is definitely the star of the family And then there is me People are sometimes surprised to find out my parents have a second daughter slash their child More more used to tell me how dogs can't see in color

[00:15:19] So they can't really appreciate a rainbow and that my achievements and interests were just something my parents couldn't appreciate All this is making me miss her more My grandma is awesome

[00:15:29] But more more was the one I spent most of the time with when I was little and maybe it's stupid But thinking about this and the fact that the money only existed because she and pop-up died is making me angry and sad

[00:15:41] I'm going to graduate next month. And I don't think my parents even care I know my grandparents do but the fact that only half of them will be there is getting to me today Then someone said what are your planned undergrad or grad degrees?

[00:15:54] Opie says meteorology and atmospheric science dream job would be to work for noa noa or nws doing atmospheric research specifically on polar destabilization or coastal impacts from changing storm patterns All in moley But op comes in with another update and says it's a moot point now

[00:16:14] My brother found out that they were also using his leftover share of the college money Which says he would have received when we all graduated or turned 25 He's going to pursue it whether I want to or not

[00:16:25] It was never my idea to sue or do the leon my uncle and grandparents suggested it and I was asking for advice over Whether or not it'd be an asshole move Even then they made it clear suing wouldn't be about getting money for me

[00:16:37] It was about preventing my parents from mortgaging the house or more left them and then losing it when they couldn't make payments My uncle says his partner is willing to look into it and kyle has a good career

[00:16:48] And it's the sort of person willing to sink money into it just to get even Besides on here. I've literally had no control and talked to no one Even when I talked to kyle and he told me what he knew that was it

[00:17:00] Then he called our grandparents and uncle my uncle was texting me updates as he got more info I haven't even yelled at my parents about it yet When I got home after grandpa's birthday party, they were already asleep

[00:17:11] And besides them asking me to take the dog out before I went to work and texting me to bring home milk They haven't spoken to me since the party Even at the party they were yelling at grandma and grandpa and my uncle and comforting kelsey

[00:17:23] I didn't think they said anything to me at all They announced kelsey's jare program top one that came up with that one says jewelry artist in residence program Not sure if it is or not then that they were funding it with more and more's money

[00:17:36] Then argued with my grandparents and uncle But now that I think of it It didn't say a single word to me probably cow. That's gonna put me in therapy for sure

[00:17:45] My best friend knows my brother knows my dad's side knows and my guidance counselor knows but that's it I'm not letting out other than here because I don't need the drama and god forbid someone lets my parents knows

[00:17:56] I'm upset or made them look bad. I'd never hear the end of it opi comes back in and says funny thing is Except for asking me to take the dog out and texting me to bring home milk Haven't seen or spoken to them since the party came home

[00:18:11] They were asleep They hollered for me to take the dog up before I left for work Went to my grandparents came home no sign of them which means they were out with friends probably

[00:18:19] Wash rinse repeat except with school and work instead of just work and my grandparents yesterday and today I'm seriously considering keeping a diary of what they say to me when in case it ever becomes relevant Someone else said that my brother and I were probably their retirement plan

[00:18:35] But if that's true, maybe when they ask for something I can whip it out and be like Remember when these were the only things you said to me for the whole month before I graduated high school?

[00:18:44] No, well, that's why I'm not helping you. I feel like an unwanted roommate And I think we should get the obvious out of the way being an artist being a musician is absolutely a real job Wonderful jobs in fact and bring a lot of joy to people

[00:18:59] So and I'm guessing you know that comment the comment that we saw there was coming mainly from frustration 17 years old and dealing with all that shit going on. Holy moly there's a lot of thoughts feelings and emotions in that in that one post and

[00:19:17] Realizing where I don't know if this feels bad. This feels kind of bad in it where you actually stand in this family unit I mean in this case it sounded like the parents didn't weren't earning enough money to keep themselves going because it says like

[00:19:31] The grandparents were having to pay for food electricity, etc, etc And again, there's always not making any excuses for any of the bad behaviors that go in on this story But I was certainly siding the the grandparents in this

[00:19:45] Whilst of course they cared for op and and done all sorts of good stuff there but when it got to the point of like The grandparents basically treating their son the way op is being treated now

[00:19:57] Because they helped the uncle with law school but refused to help him with like music or his artistic dreams Just sounds incredibly messy and sad. But what do you guys make of this situation? Let me know your thoughts down in the comments below

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